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	<title>Comments on: Ulysses I &#8211; Characterisation</title>
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	<description>&#34;the greatest obloquy i&#039; th&#039; world&#34; William Shakespeare</description>
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		<title>By: obooki</title>
		<link>http://www.mjiles.com/obookispage/?p=1886&#038;cpage=1#comment-2971</link>
		<dc:creator>obooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I hadn&#039;t been thinking about quantum theory, but it&#039;s obvious now you mention it: this concentration on the very small minutiae - in contrast to previous narrative methodologies - on a level on which things operate very differently (the stream of consciousness) and often make no sense to a rational observer not travelling at the speed of light (the reader).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I hadn&#8217;t been thinking about quantum theory, but it&#8217;s obvious now you mention it: this concentration on the very small minutiae &#8211; in contrast to previous narrative methodologies &#8211; on a level on which things operate very differently (the stream of consciousness) and often make no sense to a rational observer not travelling at the speed of light (the reader).</p>
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		<title>By: The Argumentative Old Git</title>
		<link>http://www.mjiles.com/obookispage/?p=1886&#038;cpage=1#comment-2970</link>
		<dc:creator>The Argumentative Old Git</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to say that after the first couple of double takes, I found myself laughing quite immoderately. I was a bit disappointed, though, by the lack of consideration of the influence of quantum theory on Joyce&#039;s narrative style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to say that after the first couple of double takes, I found myself laughing quite immoderately. I was a bit disappointed, though, by the lack of consideration of the influence of quantum theory on Joyce&#8217;s narrative style.</p>
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		<title>By: obooki</title>
		<link>http://www.mjiles.com/obookispage/?p=1886&#038;cpage=1#comment-2966</link>
		<dc:creator>obooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to write about the kidneys, but in the context of Joyce&#039;s use of suspence. I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve had kidneys since my childhood - liver, yes.

I seem to remember Joyce was the final straw in the uneasy alliance between the Rourke-style &quot;avant-gardists&quot; and the &quot;Brutalists&quot;, after Rourke asserted Joyce was a genius, and a Brutalist suggested that he was &quot;shite&quot;, or some such epithet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to write about the kidneys, but in the context of Joyce&#8217;s use of suspence. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve had kidneys since my childhood &#8211; liver, yes.</p>
<p>I seem to remember Joyce was the final straw in the uneasy alliance between the Rourke-style &#8220;avant-gardists&#8221; and the &#8220;Brutalists&#8221;, after Rourke asserted Joyce was a genius, and a Brutalist suggested that he was &#8220;shite&#8221;, or some such epithet.</p>
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		<title>By: MeltonMowbray</title>
		<link>http://www.mjiles.com/obookispage/?p=1886&#038;cpage=1#comment-2965</link>
		<dc:creator>MeltonMowbray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee Rourke&#039;s assertion that Joyce was the first person to write a short story worthy of the name might be a useful reference for your next article.

Bloom&#039;s urine-scented kidneys have a Proustian touch for me. Those offal-based breakfasts of my childhood... Tesco kidneys don&#039;t smell of anything, not even kidney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Rourke&#8217;s assertion that Joyce was the first person to write a short story worthy of the name might be a useful reference for your next article.</p>
<p>Bloom&#8217;s urine-scented kidneys have a Proustian touch for me. Those offal-based breakfasts of my childhood&#8230; Tesco kidneys don&#8217;t smell of anything, not even kidney.</p>
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		<title>By: obooki</title>
		<link>http://www.mjiles.com/obookispage/?p=1886&#038;cpage=1#comment-2964</link>
		<dc:creator>obooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think it must be a problem for scholars, coming up with ideas about things to write about Ulysses. - Maybe I could say something about how things we think of as modern really aren&#039;t. For instance, vegetarian restaurants, and vegetarian food made to look like meat. I wouldn&#039;t have thought they&#039;d have it in 1904, but there&#039;s AE walking out of a vegetarian restaurant after a nutsteak, talking to some young woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think it must be a problem for scholars, coming up with ideas about things to write about Ulysses. &#8211; Maybe I could say something about how things we think of as modern really aren&#8217;t. For instance, vegetarian restaurants, and vegetarian food made to look like meat. I wouldn&#8217;t have thought they&#8217;d have it in 1904, but there&#8217;s AE walking out of a vegetarian restaurant after a nutsteak, talking to some young woman.</p>
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		<title>By: leroyhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>leroyhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor old Joyce. Still, he brought most of it on himself. &quot;So little?&quot; Really? Not even anything about how revolting all the food mentioned in it is?

I&#039;m sure McCarthy would relish the notion of &quot;disciples&quot;, and yes his pronouncements suggest he views his output as consisting primarily of sacred texts. Your equation of his symbolism with idealism also puts him in the same camp as the Romantics, surely? He&#039;d &lt;em&gt;love&lt;/em&gt; that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor old Joyce. Still, he brought most of it on himself. &#8220;So little?&#8221; Really? Not even anything about how revolting all the food mentioned in it is?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure McCarthy would relish the notion of &#8220;disciples&#8221;, and yes his pronouncements suggest he views his output as consisting primarily of sacred texts. Your equation of his symbolism with idealism also puts him in the same camp as the Romantics, surely? He&#8217;d <em>love</em> that.</p>
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		<title>By: obooki</title>
		<link>http://www.mjiles.com/obookispage/?p=1886&#038;cpage=1#comment-2962</link>
		<dc:creator>obooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a bit bored I guess, that&#039;s what prompted this. - I am actually reading Ulysses at the moment, but the trouble is there&#039;s just so little to write about it.

I was thinking of Tom McCarthy actually, as part of a piece I wanted to write about symbolism - which I&#039;ll probably never get around to writing because it&#039;s a) interesting, and contains a few worthwhile thoughts (which excludes it from being part of this blog), and b) not quite formulated clearly (which obviously doesn&#039;t exclude it from this blog at all). McCarthy&#039;s use of symbolism seems very close to medieval symbolism (part of what, in the medieval world was called &quot;realism&quot; - though this &quot;realism&quot; appears to be what we call &quot;idealism&quot; (a sort of neo-Platonism), in which every aspect of the world is seen as a symbol of the divine). Novels as texts for your pseudo-religious philosophical outlook, to be pored over for years by your disciples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a bit bored I guess, that&#8217;s what prompted this. &#8211; I am actually reading Ulysses at the moment, but the trouble is there&#8217;s just so little to write about it.</p>
<p>I was thinking of Tom McCarthy actually, as part of a piece I wanted to write about symbolism &#8211; which I&#8217;ll probably never get around to writing because it&#8217;s a) interesting, and contains a few worthwhile thoughts (which excludes it from being part of this blog), and b) not quite formulated clearly (which obviously doesn&#8217;t exclude it from this blog at all). McCarthy&#8217;s use of symbolism seems very close to medieval symbolism (part of what, in the medieval world was called &#8220;realism&#8221; &#8211; though this &#8220;realism&#8221; appears to be what we call &#8220;idealism&#8221; (a sort of neo-Platonism), in which every aspect of the world is seen as a symbol of the divine). Novels as texts for your pseudo-religious philosophical outlook, to be pored over for years by your disciples.</p>
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		<title>By: leroyhunter</title>
		<link>http://www.mjiles.com/obookispage/?p=1886&#038;cpage=1#comment-2961</link>
		<dc:creator>leroyhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Tom McCarthy back in the news? Can&#039;t imagine what else could have prompted you to take up the cudgels against Ireland&#039;s premier Literary Lambkin, Jimmy Joyce.

I have enjoyed some of your other &quot;war on originality&quot; pieces more I must admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Tom McCarthy back in the news? Can&#8217;t imagine what else could have prompted you to take up the cudgels against Ireland&#8217;s premier Literary Lambkin, Jimmy Joyce.</p>
<p>I have enjoyed some of your other &#8220;war on originality&#8221; pieces more I must admit.</p>
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